Does the lo-fi, buried production pull you deeper into the album or hold you at arm's length?

The vocals are submerged, but I wouldn't call these pieces lo-fi. Having the vocals sit at depth within the music, rather than laying on top, gives an emotional and gritty confidence. The sheer amount of sound may give the illusion of murkiness, but it really just enhances the volumunous weight and density behind it I think it is an album that makes me work to listen - the vocals are awesome - and effort encourages and creates intimacy. This isn't an album about grief, it is grief, and the production is one of the main reasons for this distinction.

I agree that this is far from lo-fi. There is definitely a lot of saturated sounds that seem to overlap quite a bit. That idea that this is grief feels so so accurate. It almost feels like a black hole of music. It’s consuming.

Not lo-fi but really saturated... no defining sound structure.... I feel I wouldve appreciated this more 20 years ago.. the sound. But this turns me off from wanting to see it live as I feel it would be worse. Bands like this just turn everything to 11 and go.

Fair point about listening live - I like it when bands put a spin on their work while live - the snippets I've heard from this album make it seem like they stay pretty close to script. Not sure if that's a stong attribute, or not.